Frum & Perle: Seven
Victory is how you define it. In this passage (page 17), the neocon hacks set the Elder Bush and Colin Powell straight, the fuckin' losers:
[George H. W. Bush] believed Saddam was finished [in 1991] anyway after the catastrophic defeat inflicted by the coalition -- there was no need for the United States to do anything more. (Colin Powell still believed it ten years later. At the famous Camp David meetings on September 15 and 16, 2001, Powell sought to end any discussion of Iraq by saying curtly, "But we won.")
[...]But what Iraqis and others in the Middle East saw was Saddam's tanks crushing American-backed insurgents. Saddam had survived; therefore we had lost. And over the next eight years the people of the region would see us lose again and again.